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[1] Submitted by: neon on Friday May 24th 2002

if you could make a XP explorer like theme, that would be great.

i don't really need a moz looking like ie, but that skin seems somewhat faster than others :-)

[2] Submitted by: Greg on Friday May 24th 2002

I'm trying to download and install it, and it stays in "Download" mode for quite some time with no progress, then quickly goes to success... it never appears in my list of themes....

[3] Submitted by: Xan on Friday May 24th 2002

Greg: I think you're trying to install it system-wide without root privileges. Try to install it launching mozilla as root.

[4] Submitted by: ricky on Friday May 24th 2002

Xan, I've got a somewhat different problem than Greg: I'm installing the skins as root (I started Mozilla from root and chose one of my profiles). However, the skin always installes into the current profile. How do I do a system wide install of a theme, so that the jar package gets installed into /usr/local/mozilla/chrome instead of /root/.mozilla/user/??????.slt/chrome ?

[5] Submitted by: mgkimsal on Friday May 24th 2002

This is one of the best mozilla themes out there! This alone should help 'convince' loads of people to use Mozilla - they probably won't realize they're not using IE! Excellent job!

[6] Submitted by: Simon on Saturday May 25th 2002

Small bug with the theme when using RC3. If you go to Proxy's, the radio buttons are there but you can't see the text next to the radio buttons.

This is under Win2000

[7] Submitted by: Jamie on Saturday May 25th 2002

I have the same problem with the radio button text not showing up. This is a problem with other themes too.

I run RC3 on WinXP.

[8] Submitted by: majuric on Sunday May 26th 2002

Using RC3, there's also a bug with the Sidebar - the captions (eg. "Bookmarks", "Search", etc.) disappear. I guess this might be related to the radio button text bug?

P.S.: This is on Windows 2000. P.P.S: Wonderful theme! Just what I need for a wider deployment of Mozilla in our otherwise IE-centric organization (once the users get accustomed to one UI, there's no way to force them into using another).

[9] Submitted by: coda on Sunday May 26th 2002

hehehehe, don't think I would ever use this because I wouldn't want Mozilla looking anything like IE... but fun nonetheless. Thinking of starting a theme myself, just joined the Themes mailing list. Cheers :)

www.coda.co.za

[10] Submitted by: Bamm on Monday May 27th 2002

neon: Mozilla always loads the whole skin into memory. Since IE skin is one of the smaller skins, Moz uses less RAM and appears faster. Am working on an XP skin, but since I don't have XP, I am just relying on screenshots people gave me. :)

Simon/Jamie/majuric: Yes, I am aware of this bug but I don't know how to fix it yet. I am having difficulty keeping up with the changes they make with Moz. Well, the description did say that the theme was made for *RC2*. :)

mgkimsal: Thanks. :)

Bamm

[11] Submitted by: Chexsum on Monday May 27th 2002

Nice work. The theme looks great! I may use it for my own Lite *and weird - ie. bash scriptable* C/GTK Browser (Gem) which is in planning/experimental stage now. =)

I just tried Win32 Mozilla for the first time an hour ago! Its not my computer so I can use this theme to hide the fact that I installed another program, hehe, j/k.

[12] Submitted by: 13th Floor Elevator on Tuesday May 28th 2002

Hey, i just wanted to say that I too am enjoying your skin a great deal...not a *huge* MS fan, but it integrates nicely into my required 2000 desktop (word) and it really does seem faster than the regular moz skin. Great work!

Thanks!

[13] Submitted by: Athyra on Friday May 31st 2002

Please, fix the bugs. It's a very cool theme.

[14] Submitted by: PaNiC on Saturday June 1st 2002

This is a nice theme ... runs fast and I like the smaller fonts. Mail theme it's also a GREAT WORK. Maybe that "e" from internet explorer should go away.

[15] Submitted by: floorten on Sunday June 2nd 2002

The download will say success even if you didn't download it properly (bug!!). The problem is at the moment the server isn't letting you download the theme. Try and download the .jar file directly and you'll see what I mean!

[16] Submitted by: XYZ on Monday June 3rd 2002

I try download and install this theme but it is not working. I have tried on 1.0RC1 and RC3 as normal user and root but no success...:-( Whats the problem?

[17] Submitted by: Jason on Monday June 3rd 2002

You can open below web location (Ctrl+Shift+L) to install this theme. javascript:InstallTrigger.installChrome(InstallTrigger.SKIN, 'http://www.mozdev.org/source/browse/~checkout~/themes/downloads/ieskin.jar?rev=1.3&content-type=text/plain', 'ieskin/1.0')

[18] Submitted by: Jason on Monday June 3rd 2002

You can open below web location (Ctrl+Shift+L) to install this theme.

=========== javascript:InstallTrigger.installChrome(InstallTrigger.SKIN, 'http://www.mozdev.org/source/browse/~checkout~/themes/downloads/ieskin.jar?rev=1.3&content-type=text/plain', 'ieskin/1.0') ============

[19] Submitted by: Jason on Monday June 3rd 2002

You can open below web location (Ctrl+Shift+L) to install this theme.

javascript:InstallTrigger.installChrome(InstallTrigger.SKIN, 'http://www.mozdev.org/source/browse/~checkout~/themes/downloads/ieskin.jar?rev=1.3&content-type=text/plain', 'ieskin/1.0')

[20] Submitted by: zimm on Monday June 3rd 2002

this skin rocks , faster than the standard skins , clean lines , integrates well into any desktop , no gimmicks ,, it works , nuff said !!

[21] Submitted by: Bamm on Monday June 3rd 2002

*** Bugs Fixed! ***

As of June 1, 2002, the following bugs have been fixed: 1) Some text do not show up under RC3 (but RC2 is ok) 2) Mousing over chatzilla icon changes it to composer icon. 3) Font size too small in Linux. 4) Cannot open a second mail window. (For those with a very old copy of IE skin)

If you experience any of these problems, just download a new copy. The latest stable version can now be found here in Mozdev, and the development version can be found in http://mozillako.hypermart.net

Thanks and Good Day!

Bamm bamm@upastrosoc.org

[23] Submitted by: DJGM on Tuesday June 4th 2002

Real nice theme, even though I hate the Windows version of Internet Explorer itself, this theme is very nearly enough to fool users of Microsoft's lame browser into thinking they really are using IE. Assuming of course they're not running WinXP. All we need to see now is an XP style version of this theme with XP style icons and buttons. Oh yeah, I think it'd be good to see the newly added IE logo animated like the real thing, but with the Moz logo sneakily merged into it in some way.

[24] Submitted by: 3-rd hand on Wednesday June 5th 2002

I just downloaded the new version of your skin, and noticed it supports my Home Button for the navbar. Thanks, Bamm! (The new version is 0.3, and now supports show/hide of the button. Get it at http://home.no.net/trihand/ .)

[25] Submitted by: 3-rd hand on Wednesday June 5th 2002

I just downloaded the new version of your skin, and noticed it supports my Home Button for the navbar. Thanks, Bamm! (The new version is 0.3, and now supports show/hide of the button. Get it at http://home.no.net/trihand/ .)

[26] Submitted by: 3rd-hand on Wednesday June 5th 2002

Oops, a double post. Sorry...

[27] Submitted by: hao2lian on Wednesday June 5th 2002

I think this is a very cool theme but I would like to see a XP style Mozilla skin because of XP's cutsie interface even though if the OS stinks ;).

[28] Submitted by: hao2lian on Wednesday June 5th 2002

I think this is a very cool theme but I would like to see a XP style Mozilla skin because of XP's cutsie interface even though if the OS stinks ;).

[29] Submitted by: 3rd-hand on Wednesday June 5th 2002

Hmm, seems like it just works automagically, thanks to me pointing to chrome://communicator/skin/help/ . Looks ugly in fullscreen though. It works in Eskimo too. Hoping to add real skin support for this and other skins where I don't have to make any graphics myself, for Home Button 0.4

[30] Submitted by: Jos on Thursday June 6th 2002

Actually its crazy to make a IE skin for mozilla... just like we *desperately* want a microsoft look... And i dont want to remember the fact that I use Micro$hit 98... :)

[31] Submitted by: Weeble on Thursday June 6th 2002

This is seriously messed up, in a cool way. It could be an easy way to ease people into Mozilla from Internet Exploiter. People like their glyphs to look the same no matter what. Then slowly show them how to get their browser to look pretty :)

[32] Submitted by: Stephen on Sunday June 9th 2002

I am loving this theme, not because I really want to fool anybody into thinking that I am running IE, but because it look GREAT and it integrates with the rest of my windows 2000 desktop. Thanks, nice work!

Also, have you considered creating a slightly different theme with the same look but no free advertisements for microsoft? All it would take is a moz-friendly default favicon (the mozdev eye or the blue gecko), a moz throbber, and a moz icon in the component bar.

I don't have the expertise to do it myself so all can say is pretty please.

[33] Submitted by: Bamm on Monday June 10th 2002

3-rd hand: Yes I know about your add-on, and yes I did add the Home icon to support it. What is it you don't like about Full Screen? I thought it looked cool.

Stephen: If you can create the images I would gladly create a skin from it.

Bamm <bamm@upastrosoc.org>

[34] Submitted by: 3rd-hand on Monday June 10th 2002

Bamm: Well, in fullscreen it shows the Modern icon. I will try to fix it for 0.4 (coming soon).

[35] Submitted by: DJGM on Tuesday June 11th 2002

I think a Mozilla theme that looks like the Mac version of IE5 would make a nice addition. At least IE5 on the Macintosh is almost a half decent browser in comparison with it's crappy, buggy counterpart made for Windows. (I still prefer on both OSes though.)

[36] Submitted by: DJGM on Tuesday June 11th 2002

REDUX to previous comment . . . Last line should have read: (I still prefer MOZILLA on both Oses though.)

[37] Submitted by: 3rd-hand on Tuesday June 11th 2002

Home Button 0.4 supports this and many other themes. Get it from http://home.no.net/trihand/mozilla/home/en/

[38] Submitted by: Bamm on Thursday June 13th 2002

What additional changes do I need to make to fully support Home Button 0.4?

[39] Submitted by: Tutor on Saturday June 15th 2002

I really love this ie skin. Want to mention that the "loading page indicator" in the upper right doesn't show any animation on my WinXP Box with Moz 1.0 release.

Best wishes

[40] Submitted by: 3rd-hand on Saturday June 15th 2002

Bamm: You won't have to do anything to make ieskin support 0.4, because I added the support myself. Unfortunately, I've found that there are some serious issues with supporting third-party themes. To the users of 0.4, this will show up as blank lines in the View > Apply Theme menu, for all the themes that 0.4 supports, and the user don't have. So I'm recommending to wait and not download Home Button until I've found a fix. I'm currently waiting for suggestions from the XPInstall mailing list/newsgroup, where I have posted a question and explained the issues.

[41] Submitted by: Bamm on Saturday June 15th 2002

IE skin with Home Button 0.4 on Moz 1.0 shows the Classic home icon instead of the IE skin home icon. Or is this just on my system?

[42] Submitted by: 3rd-hand on Saturday June 15th 2002

Hmm, WFM. Are you using the same version of ieskin (ieskin/1.0)?

[43] Submitted by: Bamm on Sunday June 16th 2002

I'm using the development version on mozillako.hypermart.net. But it should be the same since no graphics were moved. It's still called ieskin/1.0 though.

[44] Submitted by: 3rd-hand on Monday June 17th 2002

It should just work. :( BTW, I have made Home Button 0.4.1 as a bugfix release. Maybe it's the best thing if themes support the app and not the other way around, though.

[45] Submitted by: Bamm on Monday June 17th 2002

Home Button should internally support only Classic and Modern, and should provide documentation for theme authors to add support for it, such as adding a reference for #Home in their css.

[46] Submitted by: devin on Wednesday June 19th 2002

themes like this one that use system widgets don't look right in xp. its very minimal, i know, but i'm a perfectionist and it stops me from using these themes. its hard to explain so i'll just use pictures:

Bad: http://www.theinternet.info/images/theme-bad.gif Good: http://www.theinternet.info/images/theme-good.gif

funny thing about it is that the 'good' theme here is lopburi 'flat' and under other windows versions it is completely flat with no buttons. and yet in xp it uses buttons that are *perfect* unlike these other system-widget themes. hmm...

[47] Submitted by: Bamm on Wednesday June 19th 2002

Devin: The intention of this theme was to make it look like IE 6 on Win 9x/2000/ME.

[48] Submitted by: devin on Thursday June 20th 2002

bamm: understood. what i'm referring to happens with *all* mozilla themes that use system widgets, except Lopburi Flat. just a thought. didn't mean to single out the IE theme, really.

[49] Submitted by: Bamm on Thursday June 20th 2002

devin: I'm trying to make an XP theme. I have the icons (some of them anyway) but I don't have Win XP. Can you help me make it look right in Win XP?

[50] Submitted by: devin on Thursday June 20th 2002

bamm: i most certainly can and i'm honored with the offer. i can get the right icons for you, for a start. ..i'm reluctant to post my email address here for you... hmm. go to http://www.theinternet.info/email.html

i will post my address on that page for you, *temporarily* :) and you can contact me that way

[51] Submitted by: Arnold on Sunday June 23rd 2002

This is really a wonderful theme. Well polished, very accurate rendition, and not too loud - great for everyday use. This is absolutely the best theme out there.

[52] Submitted by: Patrick on Tuesday June 25th 2002

Nice skin, however some parts of this theme draw kind of funny in OS X. Scroll bars and tabs need a big to love'n... I can send in some picts if you wish. pat@arambay.com

[53] Submitted by: 3rd-hand on Wednesday June 26th 2002

Bamm: If you want to make ieskin support Home Button, then I won't have to make Home Button support ieskin myself (mostly because of the bug, but also to make sure it always works). I've added a guide for theme authors to my page. http://home.no.net/trihand/mozilla/home/en/

[54] Submitted by: Tamo on Friday June 28th 2002

Hey, GREAT skin... I've just started to use Mozilla instead of IE, but I really don't like Modern nor Classic standard skins.

[55] Submitted by: Assimil8or on Sunday June 30th 2002

I hate IE, but this skin really rules ;)

[56] Submitted by: HoshZilla on Monday July 8th 2002

Bamm, one quick question. Is this skin legal? If I were the M$ legal dept, i'd have a cow over this.

Also, can we have the throbber moving? If you need some MSIE XP Screenshots, email at joshua ~at~ despammed ~dot~ com.

Thanks!

[57] Submitted by: Bamm on Wednesday July 10th 2002

Hosh, I don't really know about the legalities of this, I just made it coz I think it was fun. I wished you hadn't brought it up though, someone there might be reading this page. :)

The throbber isn't moving because it is just an image. I discovered you can't move things around in skins, in this case the throbber, which in Mozilla is in the main toolbar, cannot be moved to the menu bar, which is where it is in IE.

It's the same reason why skins can't move the Home button from the personal toolbar to the main toolbar.

I heard it is possible to add a new throbber in another place using an XBL binding, but I don't know how. If someone could teach me I'd be grateful.

Bus since the whole point of this skin is just for fun, it's not really so much a big deal for me. :)

Have a nice day.

Bamm

[58] Submitted by: Ethan on Tuesday July 23rd 2002

Bamm

Let us know if anyone takes you up on the XBL binding stuff. I was working on a hybrid IE/Mozilla skin a few months ago and wanted to make the location box it own toolbar similar to Netscape 4.x and IE but I could not figure out how to do it. I think I could do it with XBL but i'm not sure how.

[59] Submitted by: Bamm on Saturday July 27th 2002

Ethan: I don't think that's possible, since a binding on a skin cannot have JavaScript, which is needed to make the URL bar work.

In my case all I need to make a throbber is the busy="true" property. I do not require that clicking on it will take you to a page (needs js) since the real IE does not act that way.

Johannes once told me he succeeded in adding a Home button to Pinball via xbl, but clicking on it didn't work so he gave up. It looks like Mozilla ignores any .js files found in skins.

[60] Submitted by: Bamm on Saturday July 27th 2002

***** NEW VERSION *****

July 27, 2002

I'm glad to announce a new version of IE Skin.

This new version of Internet Explorer skin finally gives the user a choice between 3 looks:

1) Show text labels (default) 2) No text labels 3) Selective text on right

This makes IE Skin the first skin to have several subskins packed into one (as opposed to creating several new skins with only minor variations between them). For details, see

IE Skin Tips and Tricks http://mozillako.hypermart.net/ieskin/

The new version also adds support for 3rd Hand's Home Button add-on and the New Tab button.

Please get the latest version at

IE Skin Homepage http://mozillako.hypermart.net/ieskin/

OR

DeskMod http://www.deskmod.com/core.mod?show=showskin&skin_id=13436

I have submitted the new skin to mozdev so I expect this page to show the new skin soon. In the meantime, I suggest that you get IE Skin from either of the two sites posted above.

Best Regards, Bamm

[62] Submitted by: muiiia on Tuesday July 30th 2002

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[63] Submitted by: A Home Button User on Friday August 2nd 2002

When I install Home button Version 0.4.1 I get two blank lines on the View > Apply Theme menu. This bug is only supposed to occur when you do not have a theme the home button supports. I currently have all of the themes the home button supports. My themes are all the latest versions as well. I am running Mozilla 1.1 Beta on Windows ME. Other than this, the ie skin and the home button work great together.

[64] Submitted by: Bamm on Saturday August 3rd 2002

Maybe Home Button should /remove/ support for IE Skin, because the skin supports it already.

[65] Submitted by: 3rd-hand on Tuesday August 6th 2002

Oops! I gotta update it soon. It might be because 0.4.1 doesn't support all the newest versions. At least SkyPilot is updated quite often. And now LittleMozilla and Wood support it too.

[66] Submitted by: Bamm on Thursday August 8th 2002

3rd-hand: The mozdev version of IE Skin (this one) is quite old and does not support Home Button. Please point your link to deskmod or the IE Skin homepage so users can get a version of IE Skin that supports Home Button.

[67] Submitted by: 3rd-hand on Saturday August 10th 2002

Bamm: Fixed.

[68] Submitted by: HoshZilla on Thursday August 15th 2002

I've found a workaround in XP on how to make the MSIE theme look like 9x, Me, NT4, and 2000. To do that:

1. Go to the Control Panel. 2. Click Display ans then the Appearance Tab. 3. Under Windows & Buttons, Choose Windows Classic. 4. Under Color Scheme, choose ether Windows Classic (the 9x/Me/NT4 look) or Windows Standard (the 2000 look.) 5. Click Apply and OK and let XP switch. 6. Open up Moz and see the MSIE skin in its glory!

[69] Submitted by: HoshZilla on Thursday August 15th 2002

I've found a workaround in XP on how to make the MSIE theme look like 9x, Me, NT4, and 2000. To do that:

1. Go to the Control Panel. 2. Click Display ans then the Appearance Tab. 3. Under Windows & Buttons, Choose Windows Classic. 4. Under Color Scheme, choose ether Windows Classic (the 9x/Me/NT4 look) or Windows Standard (the 2000 look.) 5. Click Apply and OK and let XP switch. 6. Open up Moz and see the MSIE skin in its glory!

[70] Submitted by: goatdemon on Tuesday August 20th 2002

here's a stupid question, how do i download this skin, i click on the Internet_Explorer_Skin button and nothing happens, it says page cannot be displayed, is there another button or is the site down?

[71] Submitted by: Bamm on Wednesday August 21st 2002

goatdemon: I prefer that you get Internet Explorer skin here:

http://mozillako.hypermart.net/ieskin/

It has a much newer copy than mozdev.

[72] Submitted by: goatdemon on Thursday August 22nd 2002

thanks bamm

[73] Submitted by: woody on Friday August 23rd 2002

just installed ieskin,love it, really fantastic work. one problem is that the tab label on the curently focussed tab turns grey/silver like #CCCCCC which i would like to customise. thanks for the skin :)

[74] Submitted by: woody on Friday August 23rd 2002

fixed the silver tab problem, it was not your skin but a multizilla preference :)

[75] Submitted by: avih on Tuesday August 27th 2002

hi. looks good.

could be OT here, but is there a way to add the bookmarks toolbar icon to the main one (with back/fwd/etc)?? i have to open the menu toolbar just to use the bookmarks.

cheers avih

[76] Submitted by: Strangerli on Wednesday September 11th 2002

Hehe, now I have the Internet Explorer on Linux *ggg*

[77] Submitted by: JC on Saturday September 21st 2002

great theme bamm! it looks like my windows 98 but are you going to release the theme of windows xp?

[78] Submitted by: JC on Saturday September 21st 2002

oh yeah and one suggestion. try to have the icon inthe upper right corner to have motion while loadind a page. if you cold do that it would great!

good luck JC

[79] Submitted by: Josh on Tuesday September 24th 2002

How do you remove text from the buttons on the Navigation bar? (Back, Forward, etc)? I don't think there's an option in Mozilla (should be), but can I edit a certain file in the theme to disable the text? Thanks.

[80] Submitted by: Howie on Saturday September 28th 2002

At last I can remove that virus invested IE (well the shortcuts anyway) from my machine and convince my girlfriend to use a secure browser without her noticing. Don't bother with a huge Windows Update download - just install Mozilla instaed!

Thanks

PS. Good point JC

[81] Submitted by: SuperNova on Sunday September 29th 2002

Nice theme, and no problems with installing. I use Mozilla 1.1?

[82] Submitted by: JC on Sunday September 29th 2002

My friends acually thought it was that internet explorer.since my family uses internet explorer i got this theme on and they can't eventell the difference! finally no more problems about my family having problems with internet explorer.

by the way howie that you are right that ie is nothing but a hard drive hogger.i run 98 and when i open two windows ie shuts down. it is a piece og garbage!

[83] Submitted by: JC on Sunday September 29th 2002

My friends acually thought it was that internet explorer.since my family uses internet explorer i got this theme on and they can't eventell the difference! finally no more problems about my family having problems with internet explorer.

by the way howie that you are right that ie is nothing but a hard drive hogger.i run 98 and when i open two windows ie shuts down. it is a piece og garbage!

[84] Submitted by: Howie on Monday September 30th 2002

You can get rid of IE almost completely by running IEradicator. It deletes all of IE (everything under c:program filesinternet explorer and a load of dlls) except for the Windows Update facility. It has, along with Mozilla, given me my Desktop back after a load of dodgy ActiveX components tried to take it over by getting rid of my own shortcuts and setting home pages without me telling them to.

The URL is:- http://216.239.39.100/search?q=cache:BN9TSq_soIMC:www.epix.net/~artnpeg/+eradicate+ie&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

Can Bamm comment on JC's development suggestion about the icon in the upper right corner to have motion while loadind a page?

[85] Submitted by: JC on Thursday October 3rd 2002

thanks howie! i finally got ie out after tring 100 times

[86] Submitted by: JC on Saturday October 5th 2002

bamm what do you use to make this theme?

[87] Submitted by: Bamm on Monday 28th March 2005 at 10:29 -0500

You can find an updated version of this skin for both Firefox and the Mozilla Suite in the following page:

Have Fun!

P.S.
To JC: for the code, all I used was either Notepad or KEdit. The images were extracted directly from IE using an icon editor.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7.6) Gecko/20050317 Firefox/1.0.2