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[1] Submitted by: DmiG Wednesday June 25th 2003

Nice, I like this one! But I think, sidebar tab headers and browser tabs are too high, they take up too much of window space. Good height for sidebar tab - height of image (I mean distance between most upper and lower dots) on the right side if it.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312

[2] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Wednesday June 25th 2003

I just took a look at a comparison between Rain and Classic (which Rain is based on) and the tab bar strip is a few pixels wider on Rain. I will try to crop the new-tab and close-tab buttons so that they will take up less space.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312

[3] Submitted by: DmiG Friday June 27th 2003

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /themes/themes/Rain.jar on this server.

Interesting...
What happen with the file?

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[4] Submitted by: Al Saturday June 28th 2003

Looks like Bule+Classic. And Bule+Classic=Rain :)

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312

[5] Submitted by: Filip Sedivy Tuesday July 1st 2003

Very nice theme but it would be nice to update all old and huge icons in the component bar in the status bar for some new icon set, for example like in the orbit retro theme. Is it possible? Thanks!

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[6] Submitted by: Brian K Tuesday July 1st 2003

I experienced the same error messge as DmiG on June 27th 2003 (see msg #3). What gives? Why the "Forbidden" when "File It" is clicked?

Brian

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030612

[7] Submitted by: toadlife Monday July 7th 2003

This is my favorite theme. Good job!

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[8] Submitted by: me Wednesday July 9th 2003

Cannot download!

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[9] Submitted by: Vijay.S Friday July 11th 2003

When this theme will be available for Netscape 7.1?

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1

[10] Submitted by: Titi Friday July 11th 2003

This one is great!!!

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax)

[11] Submitted by: John A. Friday July 11th 2003

Using it with Moz. 1.4. The only problem I've spotted (just installed this evening) is that, at least in pictures-only mode, the reload button gets a bit narrower when I mouse over it.

I agree that the tabs could be a pixel or two shorter, but then I think that about the Classic theme too. :)

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030706

[12] Submitted by: Al Saturday July 12th 2003

Here is the link at Deskmod:

Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98)

[13] Submitted by: Awfwal Wednesday July 16th 2003

Great Theme. But the scroll bars get funky on my end.
(Moz 1.4, Mac OS X.2.6)

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[14] Submitted by: godard Sunday July 20th 2003

ditto on the scroll bars

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[15] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Wednesday July 23rd 2003

@11 -- I'll see if I can't track down the source of the reload button error this week.

@9 -- I'm uploading to deskmod as we speak. The link is:

@13,14 -- I don't have access to a Mac, only to a Unix or Windows pc. Could you provide some screenshots? I'm basing this theme off the Classic theme -- have you been able to reproduce the errors with Classic? Screenshots would be really helpful.

For those of you having download problems, here is a direct link to the deskmod page:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[16] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Wednesday July 23rd 2003

here are the links....let's see if this works

(Netscape)

(Mozilla)

If those links don't work, then you'll just have to go to deskmod and search for them. For some reason, the urls were stripped from my last post....

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[17] Submitted by: awfwal Tuesday July 29th 2003

Got 4 mac x screenshots that show the problem, but I don't think I can post them here. You don't have any contact info over @ deskmod. You can use the above name to mail me at my yahoo.com spam dump and give me an address ( your spam dump, perhaps ) where I can mail you the shots.

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[18] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Thursday July 31st 2003

@17 -- you can mail the screen shots to aaronspuler@myrealbox.com. Please include any other relevant info that might have affected the scroll bars please. Rain was basically replacing icons from the Classic theme -- do you also notice the problem with that theme?

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[19] Submitted by: Awfwal Thursday July 31st 2003

Big(~3Mb) zip file sent. (It will be from Alex Freeman

[20] Submitted by: Awfwal Thursday July 31st 2003

Boy this thing is sure anal about 'HTML is not allowed in posts'. If you type a less than symbol, it chops off everything after it.

Repeating: I do not know of any factors that might be affecting Rain. Classic seems to work fine. I have included 3 Classic shots for comparison.

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[21] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Friday August 1st 2003

@19, 20
Alex, thanks for the screenshots. That really is weird that the scrollbars act up as they do in the images. I don't know what could be causing the problem. Did you have the problem at all with Mozilla 1.3? That's the classic.jar file that I used to make Rain. Honestly, I don't think that would be a problem, since lots of themes aren't made specifically for Mozilla 1.4 -- the theme version in the contents.rdf file states that it works with Mozilla versions 1.2 and above, as most do. So I really don't know about it.... If I can think of anything, or if someone else does, please post it here. Maybe if you have some web space, could you post the images to a website and then post the problem on the Mozillazine themes forum? Thanks.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[22] Submitted by: Awfwal Friday August 1st 2003

I don't have any webspace (yet). I'm working on that.
I never tried it with Moz 1.3, because I had been using camino/chimera since march and just recently switched back.
Eariler today, I tried a bunch of themes and found a couple the same scrollbar effect of starting out as a white bar then turning (and staying) grey as you scroll down.
One of them was called 'MacHall'. I don't know the name of the author or the name of the other theme. Deskmod seems to be out of action at the moment. I'll post again when I find out.

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[23] Submitted by: Awfwal Saturday August 2nd 2003

Deskmod = null; //crap.

I did try Rain on 1.3.1. The good news is that it works fine. Hence, the problems are probably with tme Mac implementation of 1.4, not with Rain.

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[24] Submitted by: PalikariATL Wednesday August 6th 2003

I LOVE this theme!!! Someone please make a version for Netscape 7.1 !!!

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax)

[25] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Wednesday August 6th 2003

@24

I have a Netscape 7 version -- been doing some updates to Rain the last few days (it really looks cool now). Got rid of the last of the classic icons in the taskbar and mail windows. So it really looks great. I hope to have it up here this weekend at the latest. All I have to do is get a new icon for the aol im working (gonna look at how CDN did it on the orbit theme to figure that out) and then I'm done!

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[26] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Thursday August 7th 2003

@24
PalikariATL -- I have the updates done. But here's the thing. In the past, I left the aol window unskinned, except for the taskbar. That is how I have it now too. The reason I left it this way is because I think that the AOL IM should have a consistent feel, because people will be expecting a certain look from it. Do you agree with me? It would probaby take a while to get the AOL IM window skinned to a way that I would like. I would like to get the themes (both the Mozilla version and Netscape version) up on here pretty soon. As far as differences between the two --
Mozilla Netscape
=======================================================
Taskbar icon: Taskbar icon:
Red dino Navigator icon Green dino Navigator icon

Throbber: Throbber:
Mozilla Classic Netscape shooting stars

AOL Support: AOL Support:
None Taskbar icon skinned,
main im window unskinned

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[27] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Thursday August 7th 2003

@26

Ok, that didn't come out as well as I'd planned :) So I'll try again.
==========================================================
Mozilla version:
Red dino taskbar Navigator icon

Mozilla Classic throbber

No AOL support

Netscape version:
Green dino taskbar Navigator icon

Netscape shooting stars throbber

Taskbar icon skinned, main IM window unskinned

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[28] Submitted by: PalikariATL Thursday August 7th 2003

Aaron, Thaks for your efforts. I look forward to the finished product. Also, is there some type of program/software out there where an amateur can design his own theme??

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax)

[29] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Friday August 8th 2003

@28
PalikariATL, both the updated Mozilla 1.4 and Netscape 7.1 files are ready to go. All I'm waiting on is getting them up here. If you've installed the theme installer add-on listed on the right side of the page as #5 then you can manually install it. Let's hope that the link works :) If so, then you can save the jar file to your hard drive then use the theme installer add-on to install it!

(rain.jar is the mozilla version, rain_ns.jar is the netscape version)

if the two regular links don't work, let's see if these backwards links work (just change "" to "/")
http:www.cs.swt.edu~as1130themerain.jar
http:www.cs.swt.edu~as1130themerain_ns.jar

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[30] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Friday August 8th 2003

@29
Ok, this sucks that I can't make links apear easily (they get stripped out when I post)...

let's try this: replace the "$" with "/" manually
http:$$www.cs.swt.edu$~as1130$theme

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[31] Submitted by: Help Friday August 8th 2003

i installed the theme on 7.1 but it doesnt show in the theme list at all i tried to install 3 times whats wrong???

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax)

[32] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Saturday August 9th 2003

@31
I will try to re-upload the theme. Might have been corrupted during transfer...

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[33] Submitted by: still help Saturday August 9th 2003

i retried to install and i tried to download it and install myself with the theme installer it looks like it worked but still nothing in my list how do i get it to work..????ummm oh yeah this is for ns 7.1

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax)

[34] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Saturday August 9th 2003

@33

That's wierd that you're experiencing that problem. Have you seen it with any other themes? In case the file was corrupted, I re-uploaded it to the site as of 3:30pm central time August 9. If you save it to your hard drive, and right-click on the file (rain_ns.jar) then it should say:
Size: 597 KB (612,343 bytes)
Size on disk 600 KB (614,400 bytes)

At least, that is what it says on mine before I uploaded it to my webspace.

I have installed it myself on Netscape 7.1 without any problems.... Don't know what the cause might be...

website to find theme: http: // www.cs.swt.edu /~as1130 /theme/

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[35] Submitted by: thank you Saturday August 9th 2003

hey man i installed it and it worked...thanks for taking the time to make the skin and taking the time to respond to the messages on the board...you do great work....thanks again

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax)

[36] Submitted by: Rick Alther Sunday August 10th 2003

First, great theme! Very clean. I have a couple of quirks to list though (I'm using the latest Rain theme, downloaded on Aug 9).

Browser:
* The reload button appears to be 1 pixel off when you mouse over it. i.e. when I mouse over it, the border appears, but the stop and Address bar shift left 1 or 2 pixels. This only happens when you view the toolbars with _pictures only_. It doesn't happen if you have pictures and text.

Mail:
* When I get new mail, there aren't any indicators on which folders had the new mail downloaded to them. I have to hunt around in my various folders to find the new mail. e.g. with Orbit, when new mail arrives, I get a green arrow overlayed on the various folders which had new mail downloaded to them (new mail might go into various folders due to filters.)

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[37] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Sunday August 10th 2003

@36
I updated the theme, and it is at the website http: // www.cs.swt.edu /~as1130 /theme/ to fix the two issues you mentioned. Thank you :)

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[38] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Monday August 11th 2003

@36
Updated the theme again this morning -- didn't really like the trash icon in the mail window. So the latest version can be found at the website. http: // www.cs.swt.edu /~as1130 /theme/

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030810 Mozilla Firebird/0.6.1+

[39] Submitted by: Les Harrison Tuesday August 12th 2003

Nice color scheme and components. Would like it if the gap between the "forward" and "back" buttons and their accompanying drop-down arrows was reduced. Right now the arrows are placed equidistantly between each button.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[40] Submitted by: beker Tuesday August 19th 2003

oooh! So pretty! When will a version for MOZ 1.5b (current nightlies) be ready?

This could be a favorite theme.

Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)

[41] Submitted by: tomh Wednesday August 20th 2003

nice. is there anyway to get the buttons to not be "blocks" when you mouseOver them? Like on the phoenix classi theme...

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[42] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Monday August 25th 2003

@40
I have a test version of 1.5b Rain. Right now I am on a 56k dialup connection and don't have the time to dload 1.5b to test it out. It *should* work, but would you mind testing it out for me and posting the results here? You can find the file at http: //www.cs.swt.edu/~as1130/theme/rain1_5.jar

@41
I like the phoenix classic theme and would love to be able to implement that. If anyone knows how, please tell me. I used the classic theme as my template and since classic has it, Rain does too.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[43] Submitted by: Fulvio Perini Wednesday August 27th 2003

I loved it for NS7.1, until I noticed hovering mouse would give such a fleeting appearance to long subjects to make the feature useless.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) (CK-SillyDog)

[44] Submitted by: geshem Thursday August 28th 2003

@42
I confirm that this test version of Rain works with Mozilla 1.5 Beta. Rain is my favorite theme. Thank you very much for your nice work!

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030827

[45] Submitted by: g. Beker Thursday August 28th 2003

Would love to use this test version. Please advise this dummy exactly how to install it.

Thanks very much!

Sincerely,

George Beker
Vice President /
Director of Communications (pro bono)
The Soho Center

540-923-5012

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030822

[46] Submitted by: geshem Thursday August 28th 2003

@45
1) Install Theme Installer Add-On first:

2) Download the test version of Rain:

(You can rename it to rain.jar after downloading it)
3) Go from the toolbar of Mozilla to Edit -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Themes
4) Press Install jar theme
5) Choose the Rain file from the folder where you downloaded it
6) Restart your Mozilla
7) Welcome to Rain!

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030827

[47] Submitted by: gbeker Thursday August 28th 2003

Thanks to geshem for the detailed instructions. We were able to load the 1.5b test rain.JAR file and it works. Thanks.

Now a suggestion to the owner of the theme - as you create an official 1.5b update, can you consider making the tabs naybe 30% smaller vertically? As they are, they take up a lot or screen real estate that I would rather leave for the active window. This is a general suggestion to all themes. The one that (to our eye) gets it perfect is Pinball.

An alternative is tell us how to hack theme(s) to affect the tab size or allow vertical tab size to be set in Preferences.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030822

[48] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Friday August 29th 2003

@47

Glad you like the Rain theme. I checked out some stuff, and modified the tab strip to be smaller :) I really like the way it looks now. You can find a comparison of the old and new tab strip heights at http: //www.cs.swt.edu/~as1130/theme/sample.jpg

For the time being, just go to http: //www.cs.swt.edu/~as1130/theme/ to download the updated version of the theme. I will try and get in contact with themes.mozdev.org and have them update for me asap. For reference:

mozilla 1.4 ----> rain.jar
netscape 7.1 ---> rain_ns.jar
mozilla 1.5 ----> rain_15.jar

Thanks, and enjoy!!!

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[49] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Friday August 29th 2003

The updated jar files are ready to go. No need to grab them from the other website. Please let me know of any comments you have regarding the new version. Thanks.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[50] Submitted by: MTO Saturday August 30th 2003

I like it.

I would like to see another variant of it, though. Would like to see a less "highlighted" version of it, more "grayed out". The colors are so bright that they kind of take your eyes away from the page itself.
But it looks great anyway! :)

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030827

[51] Submitted by: gbeker Saturday August 30th 2003

Dear Aaron,

RE: vertically-narrower tabs - MUCH, much, much more attractive to my eye. Now the only other suggestion is the vertically narrow the bottom status/component as well. No real need for it to be as big that I can see.

This is now a really nice theme; thanks!

G. Beker

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030828

[52] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Saturday August 30th 2003

@50
So you would like to see a version where the buttons are more like the disabled-state buttons? Somewhat transparent?

@51
Glad you like it. As far as the status/component toolbar: It used to have the same icons as the classic theme (because I hadn't made ones yet). Would you like me to make a special version for you that has maybe 2/3 or 1/2 size status/component icons? If so, I'll see if I can do that.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030312

[53] Submitted by: Tomisuke Monday September 1st 2003

It's my favorite theme.
I noticed that frames of the URL bar and the throbber button are a few pixel slidden to upper place when loading another page or reloading.
As redrawn by exposion, it's recovered.

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; ja-JP; rv:1.2) Gecko/20030401 for VineLinux 0vl0.26

[54] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Monday September 1st 2003

@53
In what instances do you see this? I am running Mozilla 1.4 on Windows XP Pro. In both windowed and full screen mode, I don't see the url bar or throbber shifting any. I know in a previous version of this theme, the reload button was messed up in full screen mode which made things shift to the right a few pixels, but that has been fixed. Please upgrade to the latest version and let me know if results are reproduced. Thanks.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[55] Submitted by: Tomisuke Tuesday September 2nd 2003

@54
Thanks to your reply.
It seems that the above-mentioned shifting occurs on the pictures-only mode in toolbar options. The picture-and-text mode has no problem, but on the text-only mode bars slide as well as pictures-only.
My system is Mozilla 1.2/Linux-2.4. Rain is the latist version, and no reload button shifting.

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2) Gecko/20030401 for VineLinux 0vl0.26

[56] Submitted by: vintz Tuesday September 2nd 2003

Some problems on Mozilla 1.5b / MacOs X :
- scrollbars never appear (blank stuff instead)
- content of frames sometimes are not shown (!)

Very nice theme otherwise.

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030827

[57] Submitted by: PTRofi Wednesday September 3rd 2003

Very nice theme, congrat :)

Just one question: are there any plans to skin enigmail?

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030701

[58] Submitted by: killthemll Wednesday September 3rd 2003

it is prefect for mozilla 1.5b on linux.it looks very beautiful.

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030902

[59] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Wednesday September 3rd 2003

@56
This is a known bug with Rain (sort of). I built Rain by using Classic as a base -- and apparantly Classic has that bug, and it got into Rain too. Another user confirmed this for me with Classic & Rain on a Mac.

@57
I don't know as of yet how to support enigmail, but I put out a post on the Mozillazine forums. So if anyone responds out there with instructions then I'll be happy to add enigmail support for you.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[60] Submitted by: Manannon Wednesday September 3rd 2003

Hi. Great theme, however on my system (Mozilla 1.4r3 Gentoo i686) it appears to crash the Javascript debugger as it attempts to load. It opens the window for the debugger but never draws anything inside it. Is this a known issue, or is it just my system being dodgy? The debugger works fine with the other themes I have installed.

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030822

[61] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Wednesday September 3rd 2003

Hi, I updated the Mozilla 1.5 version of Rain. You may find the jar file at This only pertains to the Mozilla 1.5 version of the theme -- noticed a bug of sorts: there were 3 new buttons in the formatting toolbar that I didn't account for, which caused some ugly results. That's all fixed now, so everything looks good. I contacted the themes.mozdev.org crew to have it updated. For now, please download from the site above, and I will post here when it is uploaded.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030903

[62] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Wednesday September 3rd 2003

@61
Sorry, it stripped the url out of the post. The first line should read:
"Hi, I updated the Mozilla 1.5 version of Rain. You may find the jar file at http: //www.cs.swt.edu/~as1130/theme/rain_15.jar"... Sorry for the inconvenience.

@60
As far as I know, that is not an issue. I tried it out on XP Pro with Mozilla 1.4 and 1.5 and the debugger worked perfectly. Mike be a flaky system on your end :)

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[63] Submitted by: Shallot Thursday September 4th 2003

Excellent, my fave theme. Just redownloaded it, right here from this very site for 1.5b and it seems to work just fine. Haven't gone too far yet but nothing inhibiting functionality!

Very simple and elegant. :)

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030827

[64] Submitted by: Shallot Thursday September 4th 2003

Sorry, having been excited about it working from right here, since I could get any of the other links to work even when copy/pasting, I jumped. The browser theme is great...mail seems to be missing some stuff? Is it a beta?

Just curious. Still the one I'm using regularly!

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030827

[65] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Thursday September 4th 2003

@64

Could you please let me know what you noticed missing in the mail? I have it working beautifully in 1.4, but am in the process of getting 1.5 working just as nicely. Thanks.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[66] Submitted by: vintz Thursday September 4th 2003

@59
I use MacOs X builds, not Classic.
Too bad for me because the skin looks great with Aqua.

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030827

[67] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Thursday September 4th 2003

@66
Sorry, in the earlier response (#59), I should have mentioned that the other user's problems were on OSX as well. Have you ever noticed this problem with the "Classic" theme on OSX? I'd be interested to know... I don't have access to a Mac, so I have to go off of what people tell me. Any additional info would be appreciated. Thanks. :)

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[68] Submitted by: Shallot Friday September 5th 2003

Sorry I should have been more specific -it was late! :)

Missing probably isn't the right word. Everything works perfectly, even all of the smileys. Are the folder icons the same? They look different; and there isn't a Junk Mail folder icon.

I'm sorry...I'm not trying to be picky, I don't even know how to build a theme. The mail client just looks different and I was mainly just wondering if this was the final version of it or not?

Thanks!

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030827

[69] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Friday September 5th 2003

@68
I really appreciate your input, thanks for letting me know about the junk icon not showing. Here's what I did: I made the junk icon into a trash can, just like the trash icon. That sound good?

This isn't a beta per se. I guess more like a work in progress... I thought I was finished, then found out they added 3 icons to the composer toolbar, and fixed that. Then you let me know about the junk icon, so I fixed that. Basically it's just little fixes, not a beta. Does that make sense to anyone but me? hehe. The file isn't up here at themes.mozdev.org yet... I'll need to get in touch with them and let them know of yet antother update. It was easier the way deskmod.com allowed me to do updates myself and not have to bother them all the time. hehe They're probably tired of hearing from me.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[70] Submitted by: Tyler Retelle Saturday September 6th 2003

@69
I downloaded the Rain Theme for Mozilla 1.5b, and I love it. When do you plan on posting the version with the fixed junk mail icon?

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030827

[71] Submitted by: gigi Saturday September 6th 2003

I don't see a Chatzilla icon on the bottom left of the browser window. What gives?

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5b; MultiZilla v1.5.0.1) Gecko/20030827

[72] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Sunday September 7th 2003

@70
It's up there now.... On the web site (until themes.mozdev.org gets updated) at http: //www.cs.swt.edu/~as1130/theme

@71
Don't know about the chatzilla icon, I've never had any problems with hit. But I'll look into it.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[73] Submitted by: Tyler Retelle Sunday September 7th 2003

@72

I downloaded the latest one from your website (rain_15.jar, dated September 3rd), and the Junk Mail icon doesn't appear.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030827

[74] Submitted by: Pietro Wednesday September 17th 2003

Nice skin, but I miss the PRINT and SAVE FILE button in mail (as in Orbit+3). Would be nice to have this feature available to more easily work from within mail inbox and folders.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030827

[75] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Wednesday September 17th 2003

@74
Those buttons should be there... In 1.5, they are hidden by default. Go to EDIT->PREFERENCES->SELECT THE BUTTONS YOU WANT TO SEE IN THE TOOLBAR, and then enable print, stop and file.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[76] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Thursday September 18th 2003

@73

I just tried the theme with 1.5 rc1, and I was able to get the junk mail icon to appear. Grab the *.jar from http: //www.cs.swt.edu/~as1130/theme/test/rain_15.jar

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20030916

[77] Submitted by: Dan Thursday September 18th 2003

Great skin. I tried to get the latest from your posted URL, but I kept ending up at a blank page (even the source was essentially blank) on the target as well as on the parent URLs. What am I missing?

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20030916

[78] Submitted by: Dan Thursday September 18th 2003

To answer my own question @77, I tried one more time and got in with no problem. I dunno.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20030916

[79] Submitted by: Admiral Justin Sunday September 21st 2003

A nice theme, small and usable, always makes me happy when small and usable get together.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20030916

[80] Submitted by: geshem Sunday September 21st 2003

@76

I also confirm that now I see the junk mail icon. But it doesn't appear in the context menu (when you right-click any message and choose "Move To" or "Copy To".

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20030916

[81] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Sunday September 21st 2003

@80
Ok, I understand the problem now -- thought it was the junk-folder icon not appearing. Check and see if this image is what you're seeing: http: //www.cs.swt.edu/~as1130/theme/junk.jpg And I'll see if I can figure out how to fix it. Any other bugs found?

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[82] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Monday September 22nd 2003

@80
I fixed the problem!!! The updated jar files can be found at www.cs.swt.edu/~as1130/theme

rain.jar = mozilla 1.4
rain_15.jar = mozilla 1.5
rain_ns.jar = netscape 7.1

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[83] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Monday September 22nd 2003

Rain is up and running with the newly styled go and search buttons. Those two buttons now have the same appearance and behavior as all the rest of the toolbar buttons. Find the latest copy of your respective version at: www.cs.swt.edu/~as1130/theme/

rain.jar = Mozilla 1.4
rain_15.jar = Mozilla 1.5
rain_ns.jar = Netscape 7.1

Screenshots of the new button behavior can be found at
forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=203185#203185

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[84] Submitted by: Eyes-Only Monday September 22nd 2003

That's a MUCH nicer "Go" and "Search" button Aaron! Way to go in making one of the best themes even better! Thanks! :)

Eyes-Only

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030819

[85] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Monday September 22nd 2003

@84
Thanks :)

To all: no need to grab the theme files from the website, just use the links at the top -- cdn was nice enough to put the most recent update on the themes.mozdev.org server.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[86] Submitted by: geshem Monday September 22nd 2003

@82
Thank you. Now I see the junk mail folder icon.

@83
The new search button is much better. But there seems to be a minor bug: even if you choose "Show toolbars as pictures only", you see the text "Search", thus almost doubling the height of the navigation toolbar.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20030916

[87] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Monday September 22nd 2003

@86
I'm working on it :)

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[88] Submitted by: WingNut Tuesday September 23rd 2003

Don't know if this is the same search button bug, but my search button moves upon a refresh.
Please disregard if this is what you are working on.

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[89] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Tuesday September 23rd 2003

Fixed the Search & Go button behavior when not in pictures & text mode, and also implemented a rouned url bar courtesy of Lynchknot. The version for this update is 2003.9.23 -- so until the version at the top of this page matches that, you'll have to grab it from the website www.cs.swt.edu/~as1130/theme/
rain.jar = Mozilla 1.4
rain_15.jar = Mozilla 1.5
rain_ns.jar = Netscape 7.1

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[90] Submitted by: geshem Tuesday September 23rd 2003

@89
Thank you very much! Now the search icon appears without the text. But there is a new bug: the icon that is supposed to be *inside* the address window appears now *outside* it.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20030916

[91] Submitted by: SDI Wednesday September 24th 2003

Great theme. It's my favorite. However, I've been having a problem with it recently:

The icons on my tabs are squashed in size and appear distorted. I've been experiencing this problem since I reinstalled a fresh copy of Windows XP and Mozilla 1.4. I have uninstalled the theme over the past couple of weeks and have upgraded to the latest theme versions, all to no avail.

Any ideas on how to fix this? Thanks.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[92] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Wednesday September 24th 2003

@90
Think I've fixed this, would you give it a try and see for yourself?

@91
Never seen this, has anyone else noticed this behavior? Could I have a screenshot please?

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20030916

[93] Submitted by: SDI Wednesday September 24th 2003

Here's a screenshot of my tabs problem:

www.soulo.com/mozilla/squashed_tabs.png

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[94] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Wednesday September 24th 2003

@93
Thanks for the screenshot. I saw this kind of behavior when I was initially re-sizing the tab bar, but haven't seen it since. Would you mind trying it out on your machine with a fresh profile? Then reply back here if you have the same results or not please. Thank you.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[95] Submitted by: SDI Wednesday September 24th 2003

Aaron, I created a new profile and still have the same problem. I also completely uninstalled Mozilla 1.4 (program directory and profile directories) and still am experiencing the same problem with a clean install.

Any ideas? I installed the rain.jar file from your website using the Theme Installer, if that helps any.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[96] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Wednesday September 24th 2003

@95
Hmmm this is peculiar.... Do you have any rules on the tab strip defined in userchrome.css that might be overruling the theme's prefs? What os are you using?

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[97] Submitted by: SDI Wednesday September 24th 2003

I do not have anything defining the tabs in userchrome.css. In fact, when I remove the userchrome.css (and usercontent.css, for what's that worth), the problem still occurs.

I'm using Windows XP SP1. The problem only started occuring when I did a clean install of XP. It did not occur on my old XP setup.

Also, the problem only seems to occur with the Rain theme. The tabs for the Classic and Modern theme are normal.

The problem is unusual indeed. But since it's nothing more than a minor eyesore, I can live with it for now. I'll be upgrading to Mozilla 1.5 when the final version comes out, so I'll let you know if I continue to have the same problem then.

Thanks.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[98] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Wednesday September 24th 2003

@96
Please do inform me if the problem somehow fixes itself, or when you upgrade to 1.5 -- let me know either way (working or not). It's weird, I recently installed XP SP1 on a new hard drive and haven't had any problems with Rain like that. Hmmm.... What extensions do you have installed, if any? Maybe one of them is conflicting with Rain? All I have installed is Adblock. Keep in touch.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[99] Submitted by: Eyes-Only Wednesday September 24th 2003

Interesting! My tabs do the exact same thing. I've never said anything because I thought it was just a feature of the theme. I found it---for me---to be one of the more attractive features! LOL! Funny how different things float our boat... Still my default theme and I love it! :)

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.5b) Gecko/20030827 Mozilla Firebird/0.6.1+

[100] Submitted by: geshem Wednesday September 24th 2003

@92
The height of the leftmost part of the address bar is a bit smaller than that of the main part, so there is a kind of bump between the two. And the curve of the rightmost part doesn't seem to be smooth. Thank you very much again for your attention.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20030916

[101] Submitted by: geshem Wednesday September 24th 2003

@92
PS: Personally I prefer the address bar in its default rectangular shape with a simple solid border as it occupies less vertical space than the new one with a thicker border.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20030916

[102] Submitted by: Rick Alther Wednesday September 24th 2003

Regarding the small tabs, I'm seeing them too. The open new tab and close tab buttons look squished and the tabs themselves look thin.

I't all started with a version of Rain a week or so ago. I see the problem on two different machines, both running Windows 2000. I also see the problem on Linux running Mozilla 1.5b.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[103] Submitted by: Rick Alther Wednesday September 24th 2003

OK. Here is a list of the problems I've seen on the latest rain.jar from your website:
* The "Squished" tab bar and open/close tab buttons discussed above.

* Clicking the down arrow in the location bar only shows the location list. It doesn't hide it. I should be able to toggle the dropdown list by clicking on the arrow.

* When typing in the location bar, the type ahead drop down is now a solid color (what ever my background color is). If the site I want is in the list I down arrow to it, but none of the items in the list are highlighted, i.e. I can't tell where I am. The only item in the list that gets highlighted is the search entry at the bottom. This is probably the biggest problem.

Those are the problems I've run into so far. Great theme though. Keep it up!

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[104] Submitted by: emsearcy Thursday September 25th 2003

Great theme!!

However, I too have the same issues as Rick. One more thing too - no cookie notification icon. The notification box shows up where it should, when it should, but there is no image in it. (The image does show up with other themes)

Thanks for the great theme!

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[105] Submitted by: Rick Alther Thursday September 25th 2003

I should not that I'm not seeing item #2 from my list (#103) under Mozilla 1.5b on Linux. Clicking the Location down arrow correctly toggles the location list.

The other problems, however, still remain.

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20030917

[106] Submitted by: admini Thursday September 25th 2003

comment 42

[107] Submitted by: admini Thursday September 25th 2003

comment 42

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6a cdn) Gecko/20030921 Firebird/0.7+

[108] Submitted by: Aaron Spuer Thursday September 25th 2003

@105
Thanks for checking that out for me on Linux. So you're still seeing squished tabs huh? Wierd... I've tested Rain out on several computers at school here and don't see this behavior at all... I do notice that the cookie notification icon is gone. I might back the rounded toolbars out since people seem to be having problems with them... Looks like my work isn't over, I'll try to fix up Rain soon. I'll post here when it's been updated. Who knows -- maybe I could have dual versions: square url bar and round url bar? Would people like that? I'd like some opinions...

@106, 107
What were you referring to comment 42 about?

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[109] Submitted by: Rick Alther Thursday September 25th 2003

FYI, it turns out the toggling of the URL list problem I mentioned is Mozilla bug, not yours. It's fixed in 1.4.1 and 1.5rc1, but happens in 1.4.
See:

As for the squished tabs, I have one machine which is using a rain.jar file dated 08-11-03 which does not have the problem. The latest rain*.jar files do have this problem (happens every time even after removing the old rain.jar file, deleting the chrome.rdf file and reinstalling).

As for a rounded or square location bar, how about a userChrome.css option? I like the rounded URL bar myself.

My only GUI complaint is that the drop down arrows for buttons are placed too far from their associated buttons (back, forward, print). They look like they go with the button to the right of them.

Keep up the good work. Thanks for the prompt responses.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[110] Submitted by: Rick Alther Thursday September 25th 2003

Hmmmm, my Mozilla bug URL got nixed from post #109.
It's Mozilla bug 192577.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[111] Submitted by: Rick Alther Thursday September 25th 2003

Mozdev is trying to be smart by linking the bug # in post 110 to a Mozdev bug. To be clear, that bug # references a Mozilla bug (bugzilla.mozilla.org) and NOT a Mozdev bug.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[112] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Thursday September 25th 2003

@109
Rick, Could you please post a link to where I can dload that 8/11/03 version of rain.jar? And as far as the userchrome.css method, that's what I was thinking as well.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[113] Submitted by: Rick Alther Thursday September 25th 2003

I don't have a place to put the file at the moment (I never set up my webpage on my ISP). I can mail it to you if you like.

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20030917

[114] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Thursday September 25th 2003

I fixed the cookie icon, and am still looking into the tab-strip squishing icons (I don't see it still). And a subskin method to allow you to choose if you want the square or rounded url bar is almost done. Currently, it defaults to square, and then you can use the usercontent file to get the round one. The only bug is that the site icon (to the immediate left of the site address) is jagged looking on the round version. Stay tuned!

Grab the latest *.jar files with the cookie icon at: www.cs.swt.edu/~as1130/theme/
rain.jar = Mozilla 1.2 - 1.4
rain_ns.jar = Netscape 7.1
rain_15.jar = Mozilla 1.5

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[115] Submitted by: geshem Thursday September 25th 2003

@114
Strange. My Mozilla defaults to the round version...

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20030916

[116] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Thursday September 25th 2003

@115
Ya, I haven't uploaded the version with the subskins. So until then it will default to round.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[117] Submitted by: Rick Alther Thursday September 25th 2003

No to be picky, but while your working... :-)

The Search button is 1 pixel taller than all the other toolbar button images causing it to no line up properly.

* When you have "pictures only" selected, the Search button top 1 pixel higher than the Print (and other) buttons. (but lined up along the bottom)
* When you have "pictures and text" selected, Search button bottom is 1 pixel below the Print button (but lined up along the top).

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[118] Submitted by: Rosh Hashana Friday September 26th 2003

Rain is a very impressive theme in spite of minor glitches here and there, which hopefully will be solved soon. Even more impressive is the energy the themer, Aaron Spuler, has been investing in making it better (and better), paying attention to every comment he receives from its users. Thank you, Aaron!

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20030916

[119] Submitted by: Rick Alther Friday September 26th 2003

I don't have a place to put the file at the moment (I never set up my webpage on my ISP). I can mail it to you if you like.

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20030917

[120] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Friday September 26th 2003

@119
Rick, you can mail it to me at aaronspuler @ myrealbox .com

List of issues fixed:
*New search button
*Search & Go buttons line up with all others in pictures & text mode and in pictures-only mode.
*In text-only mode, they are off by 1 pixel....... working on that still

*site icon no longer jagged on round url bar

Note: the updated jar files are not on the server yet -- I'm still polishing them. Want to fix that 1px issue on text-only mode, and also there is a small issue with textboxes on round url bar when using the userchrome method to get subskins. Bear with me here...

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[121] Submitted by: Picto Saturday September 27th 2003

Excellent theme and attention to detail - when the fixes are done it will be truly awsome. Nest step - calendar?

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax)

[122] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Saturday September 27th 2003

Wanted to give an update:
*Still working on the text-only mode alignment.

Default behavior of the theme is to have square url bar.
Subskins:
1. Round url bar
2. Fatter tabs for those that have issues with skinnier ones.
3. Smaller status-bar icons for those that requested it in the past.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[123] Submitted by: merlin Saturday September 27th 2003

awesome theme. looks great on MacOS X. two problems though.

1) The right scrollbar and arrows are not visible on MacOS X (10.3 beta, not sure about other releases)

2) * and X buttons for the tabs are too small. need to be about 10 pixels taller.

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20030925

[124] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Sunday September 28th 2003

Any other ideas for subskins?

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[125] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Monday September 29th 2003

@121
I can look into calendar sometime :) What buttons does it have? (don't have it installed on my machine)

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624

[126] Submitted by: Picto Monday September 29th 2003

Calendar can be accessed here

I'd really like to use RAIN in Firebird...

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6a) Gecko/20030929 Firebird/0.7+

[127] Submitted by: John A. Monday September 29th 2003

Oof!

The reload hover resize bug is gone, but now, using Moz. 1.4, pictures only:

1. The URL is too small. Any way to have it obey the minimum font size pref, or whatever system pref is appropriate? The visually impared (and folks with wonky monitors like me) will appreciate it. As it is, I think I'm going to have to switch to Classic if I can't revert to a pre-tiny URL rain until this is fixed.

2. The tabs are a bit too short. Descenders dip into the lower highlight of non-focused tabs.

3. Tab icons are squished vertically, as are the new tab and close tab buttons.

4. An old peeve I haven't mentioned before 'cause it's not a big deal, but while I'm at it: I'd like to see more at-a-glance distinctive icons for bookmarks, bookmark folders, & bookmark groups.

Thanks!

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030706

[128] Submitted by: John A. Monday September 29th 2003

Gramatically I guess that should be: "(and folks like me with wonky monitors)" I'm not a wonky monitor. :)

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030706

[129] Submitted by: John A. Monday September 29th 2003

5. Also, in the autocomplete list of matching results, when I cursur-down through the list, the selected result isn't highlighted. The Search line is highlighted when selected.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030706

[130] Submitted by: John A. Monday September 29th 2003

Managed to revert. Luckily I had rain.jar saved with an older installation of Moz.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030706

[131] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Tuesday December 2nd 2003

To All:
Please re-install if you've used this theme before. I've done some updates and thing that all bugs are squashed.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007

[132] Submitted by: Luc Sunday December 7th 2003

Hi,
This is a great theme, Thanks! I'd make it my default, except that the cards in the address book seem to miss two pages, which I need. This is with Mozilla 1.5

Mozilla/5.0 (OS/2; U; Warp 4.5; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031017

[133] Submitted by: evilmrhenry Monday December 8th 2003

Quite good, I think I'll be using it for a while. I enjoy the look of the buttons, and the interface is rather clean. However, you may wish to differentiate the "new tab" and the "close tab" buttons, (they look identical) and the application buttons at the bottom add a bit too much space to the lower toolbar.

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031107 Debian/1.5-3

[134] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Tuesday December 9th 2003

www.mozthemes.tk is where the most recent versions of the theme can be found.

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[135] Submitted by: Peter P Friday December 12th 2003

Thanks for great theme - I default it everywhere I install Mozilla. Though I must second "Also, in the autocomplete list of matching results, when I cursur-down through the list, the selected result isn't highlighted. The Search line is highlighted when selected." Aaron - your Blue theme is fine in this aspect - why not this one then? N00bs that see mozilla for the first time are quite hit by this issue.
Cheers!

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[136] Submitted by: Martijn Dashorst Saturday December 13th 2003

In mozilla 1.5 on my xp-home box, the pop-up menu's, *and* the menu items on the main menu are completely black. No text is visible. If this weren't the case, it would be my favorite skin.

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[137] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Sunday December 14th 2003

RE: black text and backgrounds.... I'm not seeing this on my end. Using Mozilla 1.5 on XP Pro... Keep an eye out at this forum post to see if a solution can be found.

forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=297548

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[138] Submitted by: stefan 'duke' bauer Saturday December 20th 2003

good job man, looks cool. thats my new default theme.

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[139] Submitted by: ZeroSky Monday January 5th 2004

Very nice, I like this theme a lot. The buttons are nicer than the ones from the normal classic theme, but it still works with system colors, so everything matches perfectly with dark Windows XP theme I'm using currently. Very glad to see it's available for Netscape 7.1, since that's what I use for the most part. (I really like Netscape Mail's integration with my @netscape.net email address) Also really like that customized Netscape icon in the top right corner, which is like an improved version of the one from the old Communicator. Besides that I always liked that old one better, this one goes much better with the theme than the Netscape 7.1 icon does in the Classic theme. (no jagged edges here)

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[140] Submitted by: Yop Solo Wednesday January 7th 2004

Hello, I just uploaded your theme and I like it !

And as other OS X users, i've 2 problems : see comment 123
You asked if there is the same ruler problem with "Classic" theme. Answer is no : classic use OS X aqua ruler but every other theme I tried based on it got the same bug as "Rain". Moreover, "Modern" and "Gray Modern" are working well, as all "Modern" based themes.

Thank you for your help.

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[141] Submitted by: Yop Solo Wednesday January 7th 2004

Oh, another bug : when I use tabs, the current tab is OK, the 2 next (left and right) have no decoration at all and others are GOOD. This problem works on all "Classic"-based I tried, except "Classic" :c)

I know you don't have OS X. Do you want a screenshot ? Try

I use OS X 10.3 alias Jaguar.

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[142] Submitted by: Yop Solo Wednesday January 7th 2004

I wanted to say : "Try http: primates.ximian.com ~tigert?get=8cc04381ac5cc991" with right slashes at right places :c)

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[143] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Thursday January 8th 2004

Yop Solo (@141, @142)
Can you try something for me? Can you go to my website and then install the smoke theme for OSX? And then use the native tabs subskin and let me know how that works for you?

www.mozthemes.tk is the website address.

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[144] Submitted by: Yop Solo Friday January 9th 2004

Aaron Spuler (@143)
You got it : the problem comes with the native tabs.

before : primates.ximian.com ~tigert?get=2aaf1c64a7e4e301
after : primates.ximian.com ~tigert?get=59c7f89223f58402

BTW : very nice theme... I wonder why I didn't noticed it before...

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[145] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Friday January 9th 2004

So I guess the way to get around the tab issue is to use the smoke-style tabs huh? How would everyone feel about that as a default?

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[146] Submitted by: Yop Solo Saturday January 10th 2004

Aaron Spuler (@145)
Well, you can make other tabs whith the same principle as you did in "smoke" but with a "rain" look... something more blue :c)

Another thing... I just installed Debian on my PC with Mozilla 1.5 and "Rain". With tabs, the "new tab" and "close tab" buttonns are thinner than in OS X l->r is OK but u->d is only 5 pixels... Am I alone with that problem ? No screenshot for now : I have to learn how to do it ;c)

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[147] Submitted by: Yop Solo Saturday January 10th 2004

Aaron Spuler (@143, @144)
Just a reminder : the tabs workaround don't work with scrollbars... perhaps some code can restore native scrollbars until a real and pretty solution ?

Thank you to be so involved in your work !

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[148] Submitted by: Allie Sunday January 18th 2004

Hi everybody

I've never like posted to one of these thingies before or anything. But when I use this theme which I just installed today, all the scroll bar thingies disappear. And not just the major ones on the right and bottom edges of the window, but even the little ones like when I go into preferences and want to change back to a theme that does have scroll bars, the scroll bar that's meant to be there is gone too.

I've been reading all the other posts to see if other people have this issue too and it seems I'm not alone in my problem which is good. I'm using Netscape 7.1 and OSX 10.2.6. And I tried this other theme called Smoke which also looked totally cute but it has the same disappearing scroll bar thing.

Can anybody help me? I really liked this theme.

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[149] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Sunday January 18th 2004

There were some issues with Mac scrollbars (get the Mac-specific builds at my site and they have been fixed. Sorry for the problems.

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[150] Submitted by: Allie Monday January 19th 2004

Hi again

I feel really stupid, but can somebody maybe tell me what I might be doing wrong? I un-installed Rain, then went to and installed it for Netscape 7.1 and the mac version, but still absolutely no scroll bars anywhere. Was there something more I was supposed to do to make it work?

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[151] Submitted by: Allie Monday January 19th 2004

Oops, in my last post I meant to say that I went to Aaron's website and that's where I re-installed Rain from. I don't know why that didn't come out. Sorry.

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[152] Submitted by: Yop Solo Monday January 19th 2004

Allie (@150)

I didn't find any Mac version of "Blue" on Aaron personal web page, but the Mac version of "Smoke" works very well, with all scrollbars visible.

Should I post this on the Mozdev/Smoke page ?

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[153] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Tuesday January 20th 2004

Yop Solo -- Blue does not need a specific Mac build, so just select your version of Mozilla and install!

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[154] Submitted by: Lothian Tuesday January 20th 2004

Just wanted to say this is the most beautiful theme
for Mozilla ! Thanks !

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[155] Submitted by: Prognathous Tuesday January 27th 2004

I like this theme a lot, but the tabs are not as good as the ones in Modern. You can find more details here:

Prog.

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[156] Submitted by: Prognathous Tuesday January 27th 2004

Hmm... I was trying to add the URL to Bug 206175, and for some reason it didn't appear. Let's try again:

Prog.

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[157] Submitted by: Awfwal Tuesday February 3rd 2004

Just got the OS X specific build from your site. Works great. Thanks!

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[158] Submitted by: yet another dude Wednesday February 4th 2004

worked fine here and looks good ;)
thx again!

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[159] Submitted by: Steve White Friday March 5th 2004

Current item is not hilited in the history list that pops down from the URL field.
(NS 7.1 Mandrake Linux 9.2 KDE 3.1.3)

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[160] Submitted by: troy Friday March 5th 2004

it is very coooolllllll?

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[161] Submitted by: klinok Tuesday March 23rd 2004

Beautiful but... favicon.ico is not always displayed, the choice in last visited list is not highlighted in some modes. Pity.

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[162] Submitted by: Bryanb Thursday April 15th 2004

Gonna try this one... Some themes slow down this version of Mozilla.

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[163] Submitted by: bryanb Thursday April 15th 2004

seems fine... Sometimes other themes, like Nautipolis, would 'freeze' the computer, and the mouse cursor changes to the wrist watch, and the CPU time for Mozilla goes through the roof...

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[164] Submitted by: Gerald Monday April 26th 2004

Any chance for a Mozialla 1.7 update?

Thanks.

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[165] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler Tuesday April 27th 2004

Gerald, Rain works just fine and dandy on Mozilla 1.7 :)

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[166] Submitted by: Gerald Thursday May 13th 2004

Aaron:

Sorry to say, not really as dandy as it was.

The option arrows (the little down arrowheads to the right of the back, forward, and print buttons) are now in very oversized button areas, the arrorwheads disappear when the mouse hovers over them, and the arrowheads are mis-positioned within their button areas.

Can you reproduce what I am seeing? Is there some setting/configuration file on my system that would affect this (I did do an uninstall of 1.6 before installing 1.7rc1 on this XP system; got the same effect on another NT system)?

To be sure, this is my favorite theme, and I do appreciate the work you have put into it.

Thanks,
Gerald
gbr "at" newtechlaw.com

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[167] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler on Monday May 17th 2004

Gerald, that may be a bug with 1.7 rc2 -- do you see the problem with any of the other themes at www.mozthemes.tk (my site)? When 1.7 official comes out I'll investigate it more. The code for Rain is a complete mess, so it won't be easy :(

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[168] Submitted by: Kees van Dieren on Tuesday May 18th 2004

[quote]Current item is not hilited in the history list that pops down from the URL field.
(NS 7.1 Mandrake Linux 9.2 KDE 3.1.3)
[/quote]

I got the same issue, w2k Mozilla 1.6

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[169] Submitted by: Gerald on Tuesday May 18th 2004

Aaron:

I am seeing the problem only with Rain. Smoke and Pinball (not yours, but nice and similar to Rain and Blue) work fine.

Thanks,
Gerald

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[170] Submitted by: Kareem on Tuesday May 25th 2004

I love the rain theme. But I get the same problems as noted above. I am on Mozilla 1.7rc1.

The problems I see are the current item is not hilighted in the history list and the same as Gerald about the arrows. This problem is only present in Rain from what I can tell. Thanks for the great theme, hope we can update it soon!

Kareem

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[171] Submitted by: Fallout on Tuesday June 29th 2004

Very nice theme :) i love it ....

Hope in the future comes more themes for the 1.7 version of mozilla ;)

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[172] Submitted by: The TRS on Wednesday June 30th 2004

Excellent theme - my favorite.
But since 1.7 I got the above described problem with the arrows :-((
Will this be fixed?

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[173] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler on Tue, 6 Jul 2004 12:04:11 -0400

I am currently updating this theme to be compatible with Mozilla 1.7 -- but I am going on vacation today so it will be a few weeks before the release. The new version will have all the features and functionality of all my other themes (Apollo, Atlas, iCandy Junior, Mars, Neptune, & Smoke), plus it will also be available for Firefox and Thunderbird in addition to Mozilla and Netscape.

Unfortunately, the new version will only be available at my website ( www.spuler.us ), because I don't have the authority to update the files on themes.mozdev.org...

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[174] Submitted by: Rodney Whack on Tuesday 13th July 2004 at 13:04 -0400

Will the Rain theme be updated with a sidebar tab?

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[175] Submitted by: eitietävä suomesta on Saturday 31st July 2004 at 13:13 -0400

How can I make my own theme for Mozilla 1.7, is there any programs or help topics?

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[176] Submitted by: Donald on Friday 6th August 2004 at 14:16 -0400

Aaron. Thanks for the nice theme. I really like how the padlock becomes visible when visiting an encrypted page instead of just locking.

One more headache: When the drop down menues partially cover an icon, they erase that portion of the icon. You can restore the icon by passing your cursor over it. For example, if at the New York Times site, The drop down menu of the window menu will take out part of the go button. A longer name once took out part of the search button but left the go button since it was completely covered. developer.netscape.com/docs.manuals will take out the icons on the personal tool bar. This is on the updated version for 1.7. I got rain for the first time yesterday (and Mozilla last week) and am very happy with both.

By the way, what IS the icon to the right of the search button? What is it a picture of?

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[177] Submitted by: Donald on Friday 6th August 2004 at 17:52 -0400

Also on the help menu if I move the cursor around the drop down menu buttons of the forward and back buttons they partially disappear.

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[178] Submitted by: Aaron Spuler on Sunday 8th August 2004 at 20:55 -0400

There is an updated version of this theme at my website: www.spuler.us

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[179] Submitted by: F.Caner on Tuesday 17th August 2004 at 14:16 -0400

This one is the best out there (for Mozilla) I think. Very good job! Congratulations!

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